>> it's great technology. when the president said we were going to get access, we certainly did. they were able to tell there was somebody in there and every time they moved they were able to detect that as well. we knew he was in there, we knew he was moving and obviously he was alive. >> did he fire out at any of the officers? >> the fbi crime scene is still down there processing that. there's a lot of things that happened down there. there was gunfire and we are still waiting for them to conclude before we can see exactly what happened. i haven't been told, you know, what guns, with a bombs were in that boat, if any. we are still trying to piece that together. >> chief, you have to admit it's amazing that he was caught alive. he had shot a police officer and there is so much confusion on the site and you don't know who is firing a gun and what is going on. it's a credit to the police and law enforcement on the scene that he was taken alive. it's amazing work, i think. >> i think it's incredible. greta, i have been on the job for 30 years, and for the 24 hours that we were in w